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KingGooner
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Is Vermaelen good enough for Arsenal?
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It's "Vermaelen"
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It's "Vermaelen"
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Relies on Arsenal's ambitions. With Vermaelen you won't win the Premiership or CL. It's just a decent player, but I think he is more a player for Aston Villa, Spurs, Fulham etc.
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I sincerely doubt it, but under Wenger's guidance he might surprise us. You've got to credit him for his mentality, timing, heading, physical strength and determination.
Last season he played as a left-back though he isn't the modern, athlethic left back but a real defender. He's more suited for a role in the central of the defence instead of in a defensive role on the left, although he could he play in the latter position in a way United's O'Shea played against you in the semi-final of the Champions League this year.
[Dit bericht is veranderd door blaatmaster (op 12 juni 2009 14:52:31).]
Last season he played as a left-back though he isn't the modern, athlethic left back but a real defender. He's more suited for a role in the central of the defence instead of in a defensive role on the left, although he could he play in the latter position in a way United's O'Shea played against you in the semi-final of the Champions League this year.
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He is strong, good tackle and he has a nice shot, long range.
But I doubt that he is good enough for Arsenal.
But I doubt that he is good enough for Arsenal.
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He doesn't have the qualities to become an important player for Arsenal. But then again, you've also had defenders like Senderos and I count him in the same category.
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Nonsense. Obviously some people can't see Vermaelen's real qualities. Who would've thought that Sagna would be good enough for Arsenal? He played for a mediocre club like Auxerre, but Wenger spotted his talent. I believe Vermaelen is more than good enough for Arsenal. He has a good mentality, good heading abilities, a good tackle and he is physically stronger than you might think. He also isn't easy to pass. Don't know why people think he isn't good enough, quite strange if you ask me.
[Dit bericht is veranderd door Para (op 12 juni 2009 13:03:25).]
[Dit bericht is veranderd door Para (op 12 juni 2009 13:03:25).]
Vermaelen's a very talented defender, without a doubt the defender with the most potential in the current Ajax team (and eredivisie, one might argue). However, he hasn't really developed in the last three seasons. Now, while this is mainly due to shit managers, it is a bit worrying to say the least. He has the talent to be a starting line up Arsenal defender, but he still has a lot to learn. Now Wenger is obviously brilliant with young players so this should be fine, but jost don't expect the finished article.
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quote:I think he is.
KingGooner schreef:
Is Vermalean good enough for Arsenal?
Vermaelen is on of the best defenders of Ajax in the last 10 years and is the best defender in our current team. He is our captain and Belgium international, so yes he is good enough for Arsenal. If he will make it at Arsenal is the question, he has all the qualities to do so.
He is no Chivu (Football Club Internazionale Milano), but ofcourse he had a price of around 18 mil. euro on him for AS Roma a few years back and Vermaelen "only" around 12 mil. euro.
[Dit bericht is veranderd door ArenA (op 11 juni 2009 21:01:42).]
In todays blown up market, the Chivu of 6 years ago was probaly worth around 30 million. I'm talking pounds here.
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he is too good for the Gooners....
At least spell his name right... 
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He is a good player for Arsenal. Great heading, tackle, mentality, good pass and strong in duels. I don't know if he's make it to the basis, but he is an excellent player for your back-up. Maybe he go better and be a basis player when Wenger coach him. He needs some to learn but I think he is a good player for your team.
Some people should really stay out of the English section...
Para
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quote:Explain.
Jeroen427 schreef:
Some people should really stay out of the English section...
Nothing personal ofcourse - i love all my fellow Ajax brethren as if they were my brothers 
- but some of the English on here is absolutely shocking.
[Dit bericht is veranderd door Jeroen427 (op 12 juni 2009 14:16:39).]
- but some of the English on here is absolutely shocking.[Dit bericht is veranderd door Jeroen427 (op 12 juni 2009 14:16:39).]
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Jeroen427 schreef:
Nothing personal ofcourse - i love all my fellow Ajax brethren as if they were my brothers
I agree! 
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quote:Come on guy, fans are only trying to help eachother, you should respect that instead of mocking anyone for their lingual skills, English is not our native languange.
Jeroen427 schreef:
Nothing personal ofcourse - i love all my fellow Ajax brethren as if they were my brothers
quote:WTF? He hasn't? I think he has...
Jeroen427 schreef:
... However, he hasn't really developed in the last three seasons. ....
Para
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quote:I don't think it's that shocking. I've seen worse actually. It's understandable, that's what counts. I think, compared to other countries, the Dutch have quite good English skills.
Jeroen427 schreef:
Nothing personal ofcourse - i love all my fellow Ajax brethren as if they were my brothers
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It's very strange that some people think Vermaelen is not good enough. I shouldn't expect that Thomas will be the star player of Arsenal. But with Ajax he was the best defender we had. I can't think of a defender in de Dutch League who is really better then him. He is very consistent, which really emphasize his mental abbilities looking at the Ajax-form last year. He has a good length, is strong, is a great header, his passing is ok and has a fighting spirit and does not give in. He can play at the left as well as central. A minor thing is that he get stupid yellow cards. But I really think the premiership is made for players like him. He will succeed at Arsenal. I'm sure of that. At teams like Fulham, Spurs or Villa he will be the star of the defence from the start. At Arsenal he will be in 1 or 2 years.
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Could we please get back on topic? Thus back to the question whether Vermaelen has what it takes to play for Arsenal.
The language skills of the wonderful Dutch people can perfectly take place in other sections of the forum. Thank you!
The language skills of the wonderful Dutch people can perfectly take place in other sections of the forum. Thank you!
Goldmund
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Vermaelen is no top-defender (yet). He might become one, he might fail. His physical qualities are okay, although he is abit too slow I think. He has been plagued by blunderitis in the past to some extent. In game build-up play he is slightly lacking too I think.
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Vermaelen is a very underrated player in Holland. He is a teamplayer and keeps it simple. That kind of players never really get the credits they deserve. As a defender you must be at least be a big guy or a player with an impressive appeareance, otherwise you don't really get the overall credits, basically. I'm overexagerating now offcourse, but I think I made my point.
His strong points are he is a really good header and a defender with an aggressive style, but never really mean. He isn't slow, as quite a good kick and his mentality is good. His weak points are that he is injured quite a lot, mostly because of his style of defending, and for most defenders these days he isn't really a big guy. Not that I would call him small, but he is no Touré or Alex.
I think Vermaelen would be good enough for Arsenal, but he isn't really worth 10 million ponds, and he wouldn't be the leading man in defence. Just one of the guys.
His strong points are he is a really good header and a defender with an aggressive style, but never really mean. He isn't slow, as quite a good kick and his mentality is good. His weak points are that he is injured quite a lot, mostly because of his style of defending, and for most defenders these days he isn't really a big guy. Not that I would call him small, but he is no Touré or Alex.
I think Vermaelen would be good enough for Arsenal, but he isn't really worth 10 million ponds, and he wouldn't be the leading man in defence. Just one of the guys.
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Jeroen427 schreef:
However, he hasn't really developed in the last three seasons.
quote:Some people should really stay out of football related topics. Vermaelen hasn't developed in the last 3 seasons? Who are you? Stevie Wonder?
Jeroen427 schreef:
Some people should really stay out of the English section...
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I have my doubts as well. But I'll be glad to see him do well at Arsenal. If not, I'll be the first to ask him back to Ajax
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